Category: Parent Talk
at the risk of stirring up a hornet's nest, I've heard many negative remarks about vaccinations on this board. I'm just curious as to why this is so.
I know that there are risks involved with vaccinations, but hey every activity in life has something that can go wrong. My concern is that things such as dyptheria whooping cough and tetanus can kill a person. my mom had both dyptheria and whooping cough, also called pertussis, and the stories she told me about those experiences made me vaccinate my kids in a new york minute. I'm afraid that in our concerns to keep our kids safe and in our separation from the diseases of old, we will do more harm than good.
i'll give you the cliff note version of the dyptheria drama. when she was one back in 1918, my mom got it as it was an epidemic in her small pennsylvania town. Of course, there were no antibiotics then. the disease makes membranes grow in the throat and will eventually choke the victim to death. My mom started to do just that. it was brutally cold and snowing like crazy. The doctor was over at the neighbor's dealing with a child who had just died of the same illness. My grandpa ran over there and the doc said to strip my mom naked, and roll her in the snow. If it didn't kill her the shock of the cold would cause her to barf and get rid of the stuff in her throat. If she didn't succumb to the experience, she'd live.
My mom swore she could remember the whole thing. obviously it worked. At the beginning of the last century, Medicine was practiced a whole lot differently than it is today.
I think that the issue of vaccination will always be an emotive one. I also think that there's really no right or wrong answer, and that everyone's concerns should be taken into account.
When I first started talking about vaccinations (on another board) I was very much of the opinion that anyone who did not vaccinate was irresponsible and had a duty not only to their own child, but to the children around them as well. Then I read stories of people whose children have regressed following vaccination, and who had thus decided not to vaccinate subsequent children. And from parents who had autoimmune disorders in their families and were therefore concerned about the effect that overloading a potentially already compromised immune system would have.
My own child has been vaccinated. But since that happened I have read a lot of literature both in support of vaccination and against, and I would say that every child is different and that there is no right or wrong answer.
In the vast majority of cases vaccinations are completely safe, even most parents of vaccination-damaged children will tell you that. But that doesn't mean that the concerns of those parents who have reason to be concerned should not be taken into account. Usually if a parent decides not to vaccinate it is with good reason. No parent deliberately compromises the health of their child..
While I understand vaccination is not entirely without its risk I still agree with Sugarbaby's former opinions that it is extremely irresponsiblenot to vaccinate your child, unless you have reasons to believe your child culd be harmed i.e. immune disorder or hereditary condition that leads you to believe the child culd be harmed, in which case may be consulting a specialist is the right thing to do.
What I particularly take issues with are people who believe vaccines are either some secret government schemes or corporate propaganda aimed at making money and the shots are actually something else than they claim, based on these beliefs the parents refuse to have their kid vaccinated. I know this may not be so terribly common but these cases definitely exist.
I am alsonot so sure about flu shots for instance, shots against the flu are, at best, very inccurate since they never know which particular strain will be this year's pandemic and they can't protect against all of them. And the flu itself,in the vast majority of cases, is not such a horribly dangerous thing, even if it is uncomfortable and stressful for both parents and the child itself.
So, I guess, to put it differently, I think it is very irresponsible to not vaccinate your kid asaginst possibly life threatening disease, but I feel it's going a bit too far the other way when day care centers etc force you to vaccinate your kid for "the flu".
In North Carolina, any licensed day care will refuse your child unless a record of vaccinations can be shown within 30 days of enrollment.
Cheers
-B
this is a verry tough and touchy subject. I dont' quite know which way I swing on this band waggon. I discussed not doing vaxinations with my doctor and with my son's Early child hood intervinchen counceler and they both pritty much flipped out on me so it kind of scared me away from not doing vaxines. one person told me, well, you've got his shots all the way up to 6 months, why not go on and get the rest, I see the logic in that statement, it's just that i've heard so much horror stories about people saying that vaxinations are linked to there kids having autism. i've done quite a bit of research, and it's hard to sepperate trooth from lyes. I red somewhere that some vaxenes are made from the tissue of dead fetuses. that's pritty far out there, but I still don't know if it's true or not.
I do know this, parrents should have the choice, maybe it is a bad decision, we don't really know for sure about any of that stuff.
i've heard the thearys on the government conspearisy stuff, and not sure it's logicle but what ever.
I will give my child the rest of his vaxenes probably, because i'm still on the fince about home schooling, and all that jazz.
grate topic btw
May be I am the exception, but I don't care what the shots are made off, if they are from animals or embryos or just plants, if they work I am happy with them. The ethical concerns must come in the dvelopment process somewhere, and if it can save my son's life at some point I'll take it.
I guess it simply comes down to the probability of your child avoiding serious illness or death if you vaccinate him or her vs the child getting serious illness or dying as a result from getting the drugs.
To me our choice has always been very simple, after all our older son was born when I was 3 weeks into chemo which saved my life, and our second son was born just over a year after that chemo was completed successfully so I have a lot of faith in tried and tested drugs, but our sons also have not had any immune system, or other concerns that led me to believe there might be problems.
I have a lot of problem with the big drug companies and I know they have all sorts of dirty dealings, bribe doctors and influence the government, and make huge profit from seriously ill or dying people, but I do not believe they intentionally make shots that will cause your child serious long term harm, at least not if the FDA approves.
Home schooling is a whole other subject for another board, but I must say I do not understand why any parent should or want to home school, because school is not just the teaching but also the social aspect of dealing in a world with a lot of your peers, and also I would not be able to teach our sons as well as someone who is paid to do it and is part of a big institution dedicated to teaching. But, like I said, let's not mix these, if someone wants to post a separate board for home schooling and explain why it's a good idea that'd be cool too.
Cheers
-B
Hmmm! Mixed feelings on vaccinations. I personally, will never, ever, be giving my children the whooping cough vaccine. You get over it these days, well, I've had it myself as a tiny child back in the 1980's and I'm here to tell the tale today. Apparently, in the days I would've been given the vaccine as a baby, you couldn't have it if you had any allergies. Most unfortunately, I had a lifethreatening allergy to milk. I'd go in to annaphyllactic shock and everything else to go with it if I came in to contact with any food or drink with milk as one of its ingredients, so rather than death from the whooping cough vaccine, we took the risk and I did indeed get whooping cough as a result of not having the vaccination, lol. As for my second cousin, he did have the whooping cough vaccine and he now has Autism and learning difficulties as a result and can only get the lowest of jobs, bottom of the ladder stuff, for example, School caretaker because of this botched vaccination. I also have a somewhat profound needle phobia as a result of all kinds of needles for various vaccinations, tests, samples Etc, I don't feel I could put my children through loads of needles like I've had to go through myself for something which could so easily, be fixed/cured these days by antibiotics administered 4 times per day for 7 days.
Jen.
verry informative Jen
They say that those diseases are stillin this country and that it's because of the new people who bring it in from other countries like Mexico where vaccinations aren't part of routine medical care. I am a believer in vaccinations and feel that God gives doctors the abilities to help fight these diseases and it's our job to help by vaccinating our children. It's been drilled in to the ground about vaccinations causing autism and now there is no evidence that autism is caused by vaccinations. I hate it when my son goes to the doctor and leaves crying and upset over getting shots, but I'd take that over holding a frail sick baby who is dying in my arms because of some deisease I could've prevented. I'd rather him go through the 2 seconds of pain involved in a needle prick than the pain and paralysis of a disease like polio.
wildebrew, i can understand your concern about the flu vaccine. however, both my kkids are serious asthmatics. they get the flu and it goes in to pneumonia. so the vaccine it is for them and me too.
One aspect that hasn't been mentioned yet is the religious aspect. As far as I understand it, and I may be wrong, some religions refuse to have their children immunized because vacceens contain animal tissues. Vacceens aren't made of embrionic cells, nothing is, that theory was created in an article condemning embrionic stem cell research back in the early days of this century. It was later found to be completely untrue. A vacceen is nothing but a weakened or dead form of a virus that is injected into the blood stream or muscle tissue. Its contained in a sirum, derived from cow or horse blood so that the body will accept it into the bloodstream, but it won't do any harm to the body.
As for vacceens causing autism, there is little data on that subject, some scientists say it does, some scientists say it doesn't, but considering that autism is a genetic disorder, and vacceens are viruses that are dead, I'm inclined to disagree with it. Autism is usually a mutation in the womb, not from a virus. If it were caused by viruses, why is it that getting the disease that the vacceens immitate doesn't cause autism?
As for the flu vacceen, it is true that the doctors do not know what strain of flu will be prevallent in a certain year. On the other hand, a police officer doesn't know what caliber of weapon a suspect may be carrying, his vest may or may not stop that bullet, they still wear bullet proof vests. Just because you don't know, doesn't mean you shouldn't get it; it at least makes you relatively sure that you won't get that specific strain.
and finally, for the person who said the flu was just a few days of discomfort and a bunch of homework when you get back, and a plus for the cambles soup company; if thats true, then why did we have an influensa pandemic just after world war I? If it is just a little discomfort, how could it be a pandemic, and why is it in the news every single day, why are people dying from it? the answer is, because the flu you get most often, is a very weak strain, but their are thousands of strains of the flu, and some of them are extraordinarily deadly.
silver lightning did you know that more people were killed in the influenza epidemic of 1918 then in the entirety of world war i? the cdc in atlanta keeps records of the flu and the vaccine manufacturers make their best guess as to which one will be the most prevalent.
all you smug self riteous people who say it isn't a big deal should take note. the regular flu will be most fatal to the very young and the older people. the swine flu targets young fit adults in their teens to 30s. have fun.
Hey, there's no reasonfor name calling, just because I point out flu, generally, is not a major deal and, rightly so, that the shot you get may or may not protect you against it neither does it make me smug nor self righteous.
The 1918 pandemic was a mutation of the flu virus if I understandit correctly and something it's extremely hard to predict, and they had no anti biotics nor shots of any kind back then. Your regular flu shot wouldnot protect you against a pandemic of that kind today.
TB also killed millions but, guess what, due to medical advances it hasn't been a problem in decades, unfortunately the TB bacteria is "smart" too and seems to be threatening to become resistent to the drugs we use and might become a problem again.
And if parents let their kids die for religious reasons they should be arrested and held responsible for their deaths (there is the shots thing, also some religions do not allow blood donations etc).
A huge problem with the vaccination debate is that much of it is fuelled by what is written in the media. So we read that “mmr causes autism/mmr doesn’t cause autism” (for example), and the mrjority of us never look beyond what is written in the press to the actual research and information that is out there to substantiate the claims on either side of the debate.
If you look past the claim that “mmr causes autism,” and look at the actual research that as been done, you will find that the claim is far too simplistic. In actual fact, mmr has never been stated to “cause” autism by anyone other than the media, instead the real claim is that mmr is “linked” to autism, and therein lies the difference.
There is a widely held belief that in many cases, children can be born with a pre disposition to autism. So that means that a child may be born seemingly healthy, however that child may have some problem which, if triggered, could cause the child to regress from a seemingly healthy child into an autistic child. So this is where the link between mmr and autism comes in. If a chid is born with a predisposition to autism, that chid most likely has an autoimmune disorder, meaning that the child’s immune system is already compromised and has to fight harder if exposed to illness. So what happens when we give our children mmr is that the chid’s immune system is subjected to three viruses at once, and the immune system fights those viruses and develops immunity to them. This works fine n the vast majority of children, however in the child with the compromised immune system, when we inject these three viruses into the child, the immune system is overloaded and something has to give. And this is where regression can happen, and where a healthy child (and often parents have no idea that the child might have been predisposed) turns into an autistic child, thus leading to the belief that mmr has caused their chld’s autism. When in actual fact what happened was that the mmr set off a trigger effect and the child regressed as a result. And yes, this could equally happen with the diseases we are vaccinating against – children did become “brain damaged” as a result of measles for instance. But the difference is that we actively choose to immunise our children against diseases which they may never catch, and in the vast majority of cases this is without incident. But for the minority it is devastating, and that minority should not be discounted – it should be recognized that there are some who choose not to vaccinate, and have very valid reasons for doing so.
As for the flu vaccine again it does come down to individuals. People who again have compromised immune systems, or who have respiratory conditions don’t want to be catching the flu, which is why they would choose to have the vaccination. However the vast majority of people come through the flu unscathed, and for that vast majority a vaccination is largely unnecessary.
Even n the case of swine flu, the vast, vast majority of people who have died from it had already underlying conditions which meant they were already compromised. The media reporting that millions of people are going to die is only fuelling an unnecessary hysteria. If a vaccination is released then it should be given first and foremost to those who have respiratory illnesses and other conditions which put them at greater risk. But I am not in favour of mass-vaccinating the population against a disease which is largely mild. I am also not in favour of giving my child a vaccination which has been rushed through the system in order to quell the hysteria. And for the record, I had swine flu in July, and although it was fairly horrible, it was no worse than any other flu I’ve ever had.
Well, since your not planning on getting the swine flu vaccine, I guess its a good thing it won't be available to the public. The US doesn't even have enough of the swine flu vaccine to immunize the military yet, and the military will come before the public. that fact was released in a medical journal two days ago and was circulated throughout all the clinics in the country. they simply don't have enough of the vaccine, so it won't be available unless something drastic happens. Not that I'm overly worried about it. Out of six billion people, only a few thousand globally even have it, that isn't really a worrying percentage in my book.
The problem with discussion in general and the media,is tht they try to create a story out of everything and, most of the time, turn super sensationalist for some things and way under estimate things other times.
As a case in point, I think original 9 11 death toll was reported in the order of 20000 but the Christmas day tsunami was first estimated at about 2000, if I recall correctly, the final figures being 3000 and 220000 respectively.
I also remember when we got about half an inch of snow in Charlotte and the local station kept showing pictures of people running out to stack up on canned foods as if this was the end of the world, and they had all these programs about safe use of gas stoves and heating and such.
But I derail, basically I think the media tends to give us a super exaggerated and inaccurate picture of what is really there, the headlines often have nothing to do with the actual text, so people always have to d their own research and read their way through the @"glamor" of the news story to the facts.
I have to say I find it a bit sad the military, healthy men in their prime, quite a few of them without families, get the vaccine before little babies and mothers, but then again I suppose they think the young adults age group be hit the hardest.
We did take the precaution of having Tamiflu available and have enough for the family in case of serious flu and nothing being offerred to us, but we know taking Tami Flu can be quite as risky as the flu itself in some cases, so we'll have to be very careful.
wildebrew, i was not calling you smug. good grief. i was referring to the general attitude. oh i am well aware of tb. my dad who recently passed was an orpan because both his parents died of it. the new stronger strains concern me greatly. good if i wanted to insult you, i'd have done it private. i'd never do it becaus, though i don't agree with you some of the time, i think you are intelligent and you think before youspeak. sorry because i guess youd on't think i do.
Pros are you don't die, cons are you die.
I'm on the Autistic spectrum, as I have Asperger's Syndrome, and my cousin is way worse off than me, never able to probably live on his own. The medical knowledge that I possess coupled with personal experiences would lead me to believe that vaccinations are not the answer. Their effectiveness is not fully known, and it is only a money making scheme. this website will provide a lot of information. I wish my mom never vaccinated me. It was a big mistake.
reina, i'm not discounting what you say, but there are many causes of aspergers and autism. the fact is that unfortunately, scientists don't have a clear understanding and most of what is out there is theories and we may never know for sure.
i have several friends with autistic children. in a majority of the cases, there was some degree of it in a previous generation. many of the people that i'm referring too had a family member or were probably aspergers but at the time they were little they were just classified as, pardon me, " a little strange" or "socially inept." as adults they have gotten the aspergers clasification.
this may not be the case for you, but until we know for sure, please don't be angry at your Mom for doing what she thought was right. when the rubber meets the road and you have children, AS you will learn all the theories in the world are guides. we have to make the best decisions. sometime they go against what society or our families say is best. as moms we have to figuratively look in the mirror and decide that what we decided was most beneficial for our children. sometimes it is and sometimes we err. am I making sense?
Yes Turricane, I think you are.
My sympathies to anyone suffering with the effects, but I knew both a man and a woman who suffered into adulthood as a result of polio. The man had a limb shorter than the other, I think it was the leg. The woman was basically old and worn out in her thirties, always in pain, never really feeling that well and they told her it was the Polio.
Once upon a recent time, they claimed autism was caused by rejection by the mother, and was a psychological phenomenon.
The cause of autism is not known. But many mothers suffered needless guilt at one point on account of not knowing how they could have caused this "psychological" problem that is in fact organic.
Thanks, Turicane. From personal experience, when my cousin was given the shot, he changed forever. He was normal before that day. Then, a few hours later, he made the changed that made us unable to recognize him. So, I do feel with all my heart that things would have been different. And I'd rather have Polio than Autism any day of the weak. The mind is a beautiful thing. I feel that as long as I'm messed up physically and have my mind, things are okay. Thank God MS will not screw me up mentally. i like to be able to think. i feel bad for my poor cousin. Gosh! I think of all the things he will never be able to do, and it really breaks my heart. I'm thinking that if I die before him or something, i'd like to will something to him because he will need it. May God be with him. May God protect him, for he cannot protect himself. I'm sooooooooo glad i did not end up that bad off as he did. The expression, "It really could have been worse." really applies now. Everytime I think of what my fate could have been, I get chilld. It is a blessing that the shots only messed me up a little rather than severely to the point of not being able to function or contribute. I'm truly blessed and thankful for the fact I'm able to live on my own, and though I'm a bit strange in some ways and will always have challenges forever no matter what I do, it is better than being totally dependent, never having a chance to live out my dreams or even have dreams at all.
reina, let e tell you that polio is a horrible horrible disease. thank god it doesn't come around much any more. when i was a child it was the scourge of the summer. they'd close pools and stuff because of it. my cousins who lived on long island new york lived next to a boy who had it and ended up in an iron lung. this was some kind of a device to help him breathe. he died at a young age in a nursing home of some kind.
youkeep up your positive attitude. it will help you more than anything else in this life.
I'd rather hurt like crazy all over and be completely paralyzed than not have my mind. I love to think. I love to dream. I love to pray to Jehovah God. I love my relationship with Him. I love to think of Him and how he has helped me and has always been there. If my mind was gone, I could not do any of those things. To me, it doesn't matter the physical pain. I could handle anything physical. It is my mind that I love the most. The mind, as they say, is a beautiful thing, and my cousin will never experience such beauty. I'm so blessed, and I'll never forget that.
I'm very outdated on many vaccinations, and I never plan to get them. I feel there are better things than putting crap in my body that we don't even know enough about. I've read plenty of literature, and what I've read is shocking. Everyone else can do what they want because it is a personal choice. But I know what I won't do.
Turricane, on the contrary, I very much do think that you think before you write and I am very happy to have you on the boards. You've taught me a lot about home schooling, just to take an example, and why it would actually not be an absolutely horrible idea in all situations. My main reason for not doing it myself ever, is that I don't think I would make a good teacher, a parent is what I can do pretty well, I think, and leave the teaching to others, except helping with homework, but for those who are dedicated, get the state help and plan their kids education I see that can actually be not such a bad way at all.
So, I was a bit tongue in cheek about my response, problem with any E Communication is that the intent of the poster is hard to indicate and often the words are interpreted the wrong way, usually more negatively than they ever were meant in the first place. So, no worries there.
I have to go by basic probabilities on my kids being harmed by getting shots vs them not getting harmed. I don't believe in web sites that spout conspiracy theories, I am sure you can find sites that say cocaine and cancer is good for you and it's all a way for the government to control the population growth, or some such. Even if one of my boys ended up autistic I would not blame myself because I took the scientific advice I have access to and made a decission for my kid that I truly believe is the best for him, it doesn't mean it guarantees everything will work out 100%, it never does.
I am cinreasingly finding that internet studies, claims and news media is always biast one way or the other and all the facts are collected to back up whatever claim they wanted to make in the first place. They take single examples where something went wrong and make it sound like that accounts for the majority of cases (there is a woman who is 115 years old and smokes a pack a day, therefore clearly smoking is no risk to anyone, or there is a woman who tried a ziip of alcohol and died of alcoholism 3 years later so if you taste vodka you will die of alcohol related disesase), I have a very ahrd time finding an objective web site that present a case and the relevant scientific research both ways, and that's waht I believe in, not something or someone who has an agenda to make me believe something and collects information to convince me, you can make numbers say whatever you want them to with the right twisting and presentation.
So, there is no substential proof that autism is caused by vaccinations, there may be some sort of link if the child has a predisposition towards it given a certain family history, in which case one has to take it into account when making a decission, sometimes a child may have such a risk factor without anyone knowing about it or able to predict it, in which case it can hapen, and that is tragic and hard to deal with, but we have to deal with it andmove on.
We know not giving the shots will hugely increase the risk of the person dying from said disease later onin life.
Well, I don't care truthfuly about some bias crap or some crazy debate, as I saw my cousin change. I remember him before and after the shots. That is enough to convince me that I will not ever update my vaccinations, nor will I give any to my children. i'm studying medicine, and what I do know about the vaccinations make me sick and angry. Believe me, they are not as helpful as many want you to believe. I do know that much, but like I said that is a personal decision. My personal decisions will be based not only on the knowledge that i've gained about vaccinations but from personal experience, which is more powerful than anything that science can offer.
You can vaccinate if you want, and I will not. And I must say that it is not easy to just move on after a loved one is effected with Autism. It is not like you just had something bad happen that is easily corrected and you just can forget about it, move on and work for the better. That just does not happen with Autism. Autism is not just for children. Autism is for life. My cousin and i will forever have Autism, and nothing can ever change that. Even if we try to move on, we can't, as we will never escape the challenges until we breathe our last. So, I conclude that there is no such thing as moving on if you are a sufferer of Autism. NO such thing.
If it were not for those stupid shots, I'd be more normal. I'd not be as different and a target for bullying, which i can deal with quite well by the way as bullies will find out quickly that I'm not to be messed with, and my cousin could have been something great. But no! We had shots because we were believed to be protected. Now, we will forever have challenges. I will forever have to deal with being misunderstood, melt downs from over stimulation, crazy sensory problems, perceiving things the wrong way--my brain only perceives in black and white and reading between the lines is extremely difficult, and other things that may crop up along the way. My cousin will never live on his own and will have far greater challenges than I ever will. So I ask, were those shots worth it at the cost of our lives and our brains?
wildebrew, thanks for the clarification. i was hoping that is what you meant.
personally, I love to teach and to learn. My family and friends laugh with me all about this as they claim i have the "professor mom" voice.
as for the truth, it lies somewhere in the middle. the important issue is that information, information, and more information must be gathered. then we must send it through our cultural, historical, environmental, experiential, and moral filters and come up with the best answer.
REina's choice would not be mine. I'm glad we live in a country where she can make it and live with the consequences whatever those may be.
as usual i forgot the most important thing about my truth. it can change. flexibility is important in life. is something overwhelmingly important comes along to change my opinion about an issue, I'm ready, willing, and able to do so.
Well, Reina, pretty much everyone I know, have gone to school with, is in my family and so on and so forth, has received the stadanrd regiment of vaccinations and sufferred absolutely no ill effect whatsoever, and we must be talking thousands of people all in all. Your post is the first case I have heard off of a possible link between shots and autism and, well, it is very strictly your opinion.
In your case, since you know there is the propensity for side effects I would understand why you may approach shots differently for your kids, but do realize the consequences, if they get one of the diseases it could be fatal for them, but it's a choice you'll always have to make as a parent. If a relative of yours died in a plane crash, would you want to not allow yourself or anyone you know the opportunity to fly? There is a chance a plane could go down, it is very remote, but it's still there.
Nothing is ever safe, or perfect or 100% riht and we must make the best decissions we can, sometimes choosing between seemingly two evils.
If you generalize your statements and think no one should be immunized I'd call that very irresponsible and I'd be very glad you are not in charge of our medical system. If you make the statement based on yourself and your family, there may be gentic reasons that actually make you right. If you mom hadn't done what she did you might have died of one of the diseases, you might not, but you'll never know.
well, if you only knew what chemicals were contained in vaccinations, i'm sure you'd not vaccinate your children. Most do not know, hence the reason they blindly follow the belief that vaccinations are safe.
Did you know that there has hardly been any research into the safety of vaccinations? Do you know that there has never been any studies to compare the health of vaccinated and nonvaccinated children? Did you know that the studies done on vaccinations are only trials that have lasted no more than thirty days, so the long term effects are not yet known? Did you know that the side effects, and they even say so right on their own inserts that the public don't often see, are severe neurological problems that could cause mental retardation, complete paralysis, or death? I'm sure that could be so when traces of fermaldihyde and antifreeze are found in the vaccinations, and these chemicals are contained on between five to eight federal regulatory lists, and fermaldihyde is classified as being more dangerous than most chemical compounds on two out of three chemical ranking systems and is among the ten percent of very dangerous chemicals that are not only harmful to the environment but are harmful to humans in every way, and this is according to the Environment defense Fund, which is a watchdog government organization that is supposed to protect our environment from unsafe hazzards, yet, such harmful chemicals are injected into the veins of fragile infants.
Sure, some people do better than others when ingesting or consuming small traces of poison, as some people even react to arsenic differetly, but that does not mean that it is good for the human body. I don't need a bias source to tell me that much. Medical knowledge and the knowledge of chemical compounds and how the human body reacts to them is sufficient enough.
I'm writing a very long report, if you will, about vaccinations, the safety of them, and the link between Autism. I'll post it here for reading purposes when it is complete.
Remember, Autism is not just for children, it is for life. I'd know that better than the next person because I live with it and always will forever. I know others, including my cousin, who will always suffer as well.
Just today the following news story appearedon BBC
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8268302.stm
This is a news source I generally trust, not a web site trying to convince me of one thing or another, it claims there is no scientific link between a shot and autism, given their clinical trial.
The vaccines get FDA approval, how? Do the big veil drug companies bribe the government as usual, or is there a huge conspiracy to hush it all up?
I mean, I am interested, but understandably sceptical of your claims, given the regulatory framework that supposedly exists to protect people from the harmfulness of drugs, and the fact that despite increases in shots there is no difference in Autism levels, which should be the case of getting a shot is linked to autism.
I've seen nothing but a possible improvement in health in kids with shots, but I remain open minded so if you can quote reputable scientific research stating otherwise I'd certainly be curious.
Until then, and even after that, I will continue to vacinate my children, feeling fully secure that it is safer than not doing so.